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I am really DIE HARD FAN from Id Software but RAGE deceived me :(((

First i see the videos and was great, but i play it and is like a mix between Quake IV and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. but without the dynamic shadows enabled, but without the moveable objects, but without the highres textures, i see many good things, that i see in Doom III but that already in Quake IV was removed, like the clipping of the bodys, that in Quake IV was not as good as in Doom III, and now in RAGE, what, the only good is the MegaTexture, but, for what, for have lowres textures ? I am also a die hard Stalker fan and this RAGE is not even a 1% as open world and as good as Stalker, so, really RAGE i like it but not as i was hoping for a NEW IdTech5 engine, i was thinking like the difference between IdTech3 and IdTech4 at least, no ? like from Quake 3 graphics to Doom 3 gfx, that the difference is awesome, but then, what we get, well, the monsters have a different animations for every place you hit with the weapons, and the A.I. is better than on older Id games, so we have that, but i was hoping for see something awesome, that is not awe, is just good. :((

Oh, also, if that was not good enough, it seems that Id Software cares for stupid Consoles now instead of for computers ! And, all is hidden, how to MOD in an easy way with all in text files like before, like in amazing Doom 3 ? They not want the community make new better maps and mods, and maybe add moveable objects and full of dynamic shadows everywhere ?

I would like it that was not playable easy on old computers but that the game was amazing !

Well, anyway what i care is Doom IV, i hope still they put the best again on it, like it was for Doom III...

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Doom 4 will be optimised to take full advantage of whatever console it is released on. Not PC I'm afraid. It's been over abused by pirates and thieves and developers are abandoning the platform as a profitable source. For too long have we drank from the well. Id must be sick to the back teeth of PC pirates stealing their work.
Well this is the end product I'm afraid.
I for one prefer Rage. It may not have fancy jiggery pokery that you may be famed for tweaking but it was a far, far better game. At last, an id game with decent AI.
What you may get is somebody buys a license and makes a PC only game with all the tech on show but you won't get it from id unless Doom 4 appears on next gen


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Dude you weren't deceived, you just haven't been paying attention for the past 3 god damn years.


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Spaceman wrote:
Doom 4 will be optimised to take full advantage of whatever console it is released on. Not PC I'm afraid. It's been over abused by pirates and thieves and developers are abandoning the platform as a profitable source. For too long have we drank from the well. Id must be sick to the back teeth of PC pirates stealing their work.

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Of course i like RAGE, for this i buy, but i mean, that is not all the good it can be and also, i see they try it to mix the features from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. awesome games into DOOM/QUAKE style with a story and ambient based on MAD MAX movies, that is great, but in Stalker game the player has a lot more freedom and open wide environments with so good A.I. also !

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It's been over abused by pirates and thieves and developers are abandoning the platform as a profitable source. For too long have we drank from the well. Id must be sick to the back teeth of PC pirates stealing their work.


What a load of horse shit.

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rage already 33% off on steam

not a good sign......

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STALKER also was hard as heck, then they patched it to fix the broken armor system and it became hard as granite car from Carmageddon. :)

They're two completely different games.

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rage already 33% off on steam
not a good sign......


Valve has learned that to stay competitive they must match prices of the games retailers sell. I'm assuming someone somewhere (not GameStop) is having a sale or they're trying to convince people to spend a day downloading vs buying the DVD's to install within minutes.

i'll be happy when Rage his the $30 mark, then there's a good chance I'll go buy it! :)

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The sale has to do with this. Of course, if sales had been stellar, would they even bother having a sale for this event? It's hard to say.


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Portal 2 dropped by ~33% in price in retail within two weeks of it's release, Steam followed a few weeks later.

Don't forget Steam only get the PC sales, I don't see anyone discounting it for PS3 or 360. Amazon has the PC for ~$47 & consoles for ~$50. So it does look like it's a competition. That's good but also bad because digital only should be cheaper anyway. :)

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Dafama2k7 wrote:
Of course i like RAGE, for this i buy, but i mean, that is not all the good it can be and also, i see they try it to mix the features from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. awesome games into DOOM/QUAKE style with a story and ambient based on MAD MAX movies, that is great, but in Stalker game the player has a lot more freedom and open wide environments with so good A.I. also !


If they had made the environments in RAGE like the Dead City fully explorable, it would've been a much bigger download and install, it would've been too easy to get lost in the game... and more importantly, you wouldn't even be PLAYING Rage until at least 2013.

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Of all the games to be dishonest when it comes to visual level of quality, Rage (and id Software in general) are not among them, and are more than honest, they actually show lower levels of quality before release and get a lot of idiotic people whining. What other developer would dare? Not many of them at all. I see a lot of prerendering going on, as I have since the Playstation 2 days, developers/publishers insisting that we don't know what we're looking at and "the future is now". In actuality, all we're looking at is a video, well, we can watch a film anytime we want and pay a lot less for it too! Those assholes. Words can't describe how I feel about that shit. Then we can start talking about "deceived" and something actually damaging to computer games as both a business and an art platform. Absolute lies.

At least id Software are honest about what they do and don't spend 12 days pre-rendering stuff for a TV commercial like the other bunches of festering maggots. Gah! Don't get me angry.

Besides, Rage was always supposed to be id Software's big focus on gameplay, not graphics, for a change.


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Foebane wrote:
All games are linear for a reason.

i dont Think Rage is linear, you can choose where to go next from Time to Time.
And Honest a non Linear Shooter from ID, Common don't Frighten me.

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Spaceman wrote:
Doom 4 will be optimised to take full advantage of whatever console it is released on. Not PC I'm afraid. It's been over abused by pirates and thieves and developers are abandoning the platform as a profitable source. For too long have we drank from the well. Id must be sick to the back teeth of PC pirates stealing their work.
Well this is the end product I'm afraid.


This is total B.S.
Call of Dookie games are always high on torrent sites, yet they have some of best sales in the industry even on the PC platform.

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Plus it's been a trend lately that the Xbox versions of games get leaked and pirated before the PC versions do (skyrim, MW3, technically Dead Island hurr durr). The pirate excuse holds absolutely no legitimacy now.


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Plus it's been a trend lately that the Xbox versions of games get leaked and pirated before the PC versions do (skyrim, MW3, technically Dead Island hurr durr). The pirate excuse holds absolutely no legitimacy now.


yeah it does. at least for now.

most console gamers are not pc literate enough to download torrent games and then figure out how to patch it and get it running.

downloading pirated games is much much more common for pc games.

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Dafama2k7 wrote:
Of course i like RAGE, for this i buy, but i mean, that is not all the good it can be and also, i see they try it to mix the features from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. awesome games into DOOM/QUAKE style with a story and ambient based on MAD MAX movies, that is great, but in Stalker game the player has a lot more freedom and open wide environments with so good A.I. also !


If they had made the environments in RAGE like the Dead City fully explorable, it would've been a much bigger download and install, it would've been too easy to get lost in the game... and more importantly, you wouldn't even be PLAYING Rage until at least 2013.

All games are linear for a reason.


@Foebane - I don't have any problems for linear games, i am Doom 3 fanatic, so, but RAGE have ok, good open environments, but, the gfx are lowres, not moveable objects, the environment, i not believe to be in a real place, maybe outsides are better, but indoors, there are some so horrible, not get me interest enough, is not like Doom 3 for indoor ambient as a linear game, not have the playability and as an open game, is not enough open, like Stalker, really, i just see that with IdTech4, first Doom 3 was more advanced that previous games, then with Quake 4 i see how they remove some things on the engine, not have the same clipping that Doom 3 had and most moveable objects where not as well made as in D3, then IdTech4 have ok better megatextures but i was thinking they would enable to have dynamic shadows and high quality textures on open environments, but i see they just have like many other games, so is not an advancement, is boring, and not scare me any, ok, is not a scary game but really i see just limited and i see also, they focused the quality on consoles, really, if Doom 4 is not as good as i hope i will stop to buy Id software games, oh, and also, now, cannot even MOD RAGE or add new maps.

I really like it Id Soft. games, but i see they now treat so bad PC users and also, this game really is so boring, how can be i see Doom 3 with mods of super shaders and high quality highres textures but then RAGE look specially for indoors so old, if is a game from the people that made that so awesome Doom 3 !!! Grrrr, really i am going crazy, i spend 44,5 € into the RAGE Anarchy Edition, the hard drive is almost full with so big games in 3 DVDs, but then, something, i not enjoy about this game, simply i not believe it, i not get immersion, even in old D3 from 2004 i still believe i am in Mars, not in a city, but in a big base, even with so much bugs, but here, RAGE, i see Mad Max cars, i see things that i should buy that bore me, because i not want to spend my time buying, i want to go and kill anything i found and not this so big complex things like if i was playing an RPG, i don't like it, i like it FPS pure action shooters and scary things, but ok, this is personal opinion and if i want something more open, then, really, Stalker never i bored and ok, the animations for monsters are horribly made, ho ho ! lol :D but is really immersive game also, i really believe being into the zone, but this RAGE, mhh, maybe i need to play it more...

Just limitations all time, is the sign of the times, i see, instead of go forward we go backwards, before we can record at any time a movie in high hours in the night with the analogic VHS videos, now, ok, we can make it record inside a USB RAM digitally, but have just one channel and should record the same channel, because we have thousands, but all in same channel, so for what to record the channel you currently see ? :D

Well, and for games, i think i will buy the prequel and the sequel of Stalkers already made, that are all amazing and later the new Stalker 2 that is in the works, because this Id Software is going just from bad to more bad, or wait for Half Life 3 (not Episode 3), ha, but i think i can get old waiting for this, ho ho ! :DDD lol

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The sale has to do with this. Of course, if sales had been stellar, would they even bother having a sale for this event? It's hard to say.


@Sikkpin - :DDD lol

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Also, if it was not enough, this game have invisible walls everywhere, things that you cannot jump, even just a barrel you cannot jump over there, the vehicles physics are horribly badly made, is not any funny to drive that cars, or kill not only bad monsters but good people as well, if you want, cause its only a game and Id Software always have this silly things, that i like it, but now i see very restrictive way of making the games, maybe cause of console seek virus spread worldwide !

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I want make clean, this is just internal talking for Id games fans like me, outside this, i never talk bad about RAGE, is not good enough for me maybe, but of course that i want that sells well, so the next one, that is really what i care, DOOM 4, its a success and i am waiting the best for that game, but i think its a free world and internally at least here i can say that i was expecting something much better from an Id game, just this, not misunderstand me because i like RAGE, just not enough and for example selling and buying things bore me and invisible walls kills immersion !

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